Synopsis

We spend another Friday night with Pierre, first doing some dreams and then (here) studying the first hypothesis of Plato's Parmenides, (Balboa translation). We start out by taking a look at some of the first exchanges in the second hypothesis and comparing the terms there with those used in the first.

Topic Highlights

• In the opening paragraphs of the Hyp2, and can we see anything going on there that has its parallel with Hyp1?
• In H2, he has to make sure that we the reader appreciate that we are no longer talking about “the One that is” that he was talking about in Hyp1
• P2-007 to -009: Is he using a similar set of terms (part, whole, etc.)? If so, what does that suggest?
• P2-002: “the Same Logos” -- is he saying that he will reveal what he means by the Logos?
• Does it suggest that the whole Parmenides is an exercise in revealing what he is going to say is the nature of the Logos?
• Will he not only have a common way of proceeding across these hypotheses, but also will have a way of unifying them into .. 1934/5
• What's so hot about that?
• The Logos -- as Parmenides uses that term -- has the ability to reconcile all those differences into a higher unity.
• Dialog between Pierre and Barbara on the idea of the Logos in the 1st and 2nd hypotheses
  • Conclusions of Self instead of about Self: Not separate or merely logical, but inherent in Reality, that the Logos is picking up the intelligibility of the Universe
  • Conclusions (root): “stepping down from”: Offspring of the Self: That's what the Logos is.
  • So we would be going through the generations of Self, through the Logos and the hypotheses
  • Taken as a whole, the hypotheses as diminutions/steppings-down of the 1st hypothesis, as spiritual systems. All possibilities represented, and the opposition against them (the four negative hypotheses) equally well defined, showing the full one Destiny of Man.
• Midwifery with JulieH on the counterattack of being in her own world and looking something up during Pierre and Barbara's dialogue
• If we are looking at the same set of terms in H1 and H2, yet is it possible that how they are used changes with each H?
• Back to Beginning and End. What about the Middle? He did not use that until he unpacked the idea of the straight and the round.
• Further conversation with JulieH on whether we have a Self, and whether the Self can be in itself
• If this Guy is Right, Every Buddha is Stupid
• S0-11, P0-09
• Is the Self both One and Many?
• Self as Sun-rays, as Day, as a Sail, as Air: All have problems
• Back to JulieH, Bradley, and others, re. having a Self

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